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I think it is weak to cave to users who demand an op-ed notification on a hard news story. Was the story written by a journalist or a columnist/blogger? You are only furthering the demise of our news services by capitulating to people on either side of the spectrum.
I really hate the new format, and will probably remove it as my homepage. I don't want to see Rush Limbaugh on my computer. He has nothing to add to the national conversation. I'm sure your right wing readers would hate to see Michael Moore bloviating about Bush the same way.
Your old format was far superior.
If journalism is done without bias to start with, there is not a need to label anything. There are those that say such journalism is always biased, well I guess if we are politically driven, yes it is. Personally, most journalism appears to be very liberal based and biased to the Democratic(extreme left) point of view because most journalistic Universities are extremely liberal. Guess it goes back to hiring and the editor and can they rise above all this and be unbiased. From the looks of things these days, we have a bunch of children in the Senior editor positions of most of our major news medias. Grow up ladies and gentlemen and think about someone else other then yourselves.
Like Kristi, I also hate your new format and will probably remove as my home page. Everytime I look at comments on "editorial" I say to myself, don't these people have something better to do. I just want to read the news.
Ellen
I too do not like your new format. If you return to your old format, it seems that the issue of whether or not a story is opinion-based is moot. I say return to the old format and let us read the stories without all the negative comments.
I think way to much has been made on this issue. The Netscape anchors have done a pretty good job attaching the 'Op-Ed' banner when it was truly needed. They have also used sound judgement in the changing or adjusting of story titles that were very misleading.
C.K. was correct weeks ago when he reminded many of us that POLITICS = OPINION. Lets face it folks, the Netscape community is both wise and smart enough to know a 'Op-Ed' piece when they see it.
To those members who submit stories. Be very careful when changing 'Headlines' or writing your own. Sure, we want to catch the attention of the reader but not at the sake of being 'Unfair' to both the original author and to the Netscape reader.
I am a news junkie, but I am having a problem with the current format of this homepage. I have seen absolute lies reported as hard news just because they are put out by some obscure and totally biased news outlet. It makes me crazy. It makes me feel like I am living in an Orewellian universe. And this feeling of bias transfers to Netscape being biased. Putting an OPED tag on a lie...guess what?... it is still a lie.
I am another person who greatly dislikes your new format. I generally ignore it and bring up yahoo's home page instead. The only reason I haven't made yahoo my default home page is because I've been waiting to see if you switched to something more like what you used to have, and because I had my Netscape home page tweaked to the way I like it.
The Netscape homepage is definitely not the place I go to for news. Most of the stories are reaction bits and pieces and opinions to what is being reported by conventional sources. In other words, the Netscape homepage is an extra suggestive twist to actual sources of information. And given that all news is biased in the first place, we are less informed.
The Op-ed label is problematic. The classic problem are headlines for they are the key label to the content. Headlines are abused by conventional news outlets(newspaper etc.) to sentationalize and grab attention. The headlines on Netscape are simply atrotious. Too many times I read a story that has nothing to do with the headline. I think vigorous editorial energy on headlines will be an improvement.
The basic source of bias: selection of what is news. I am not sure how to adjust this on a homepage that attempts to be open. I just know that what is considered news on Netscape is worse than conventional media...and thats bad enough. Am I too cyniacal thinking stories rise to the fore through manipulation? If not, then I am disappointed by the group-think that operates on Netscape.
In response to Dave Dadisman: He and many others have redefined Center and Far Left to make Democrats = Far Left and Bush and the neocons Center. Bush is the only President in recent history who did NOT govern from the Center, in fact he has pushed farther and farther right the longer he has been in office. His followers obediently redefine the Center to be what would have been Far Right just a few years ago, and then blame the rest of us for being
Far Left. Please, people, recognize this for what it is--blatant demonizing of the opposition.
Nancy's comments are typical of what I believe constitutes the problem you face. She apparently believes that commenting on how to deal with "OpEd" issues is simply another opportunity to attack someone with whom she disagrees. Given this situation, it is virtually impossible for ANYONE to please EVERYONE when the categorization (OpEd v.s Commentary v.s Hard News) occurs.
I suspect that the community is smart-enough to distinguish between hard news, opinion, and commentary on their own. Often, disgreements on a proper category will be driven by ideology instead of intellect and you therefore cannot appease either side.
Almost every news storie I hear or see is an opinion. From CNN to Fox, From The Wall Street Journal to The Jasper News Boy (weekly).
As I understand it, formal news stories are supposed to have at least a second source backing up the story. Anything else is an opinion.
When listening to reports concerning the President of the United States, if the reporter says "Mr. Clinton" or "Mr. Bush" I consider it biased. Unfortunatly a totaly unbiased news channel would probably not get enough advertisers.
Sometimes I think the BBC gives the most unbiased news on the american political situation. They care less about it so give better news.
I have to agree with those who feel that your old format was fine the way it was. I feel that we, as readers have the intelligence to determine for ourselves whether or not the content is hard fact or opinionated by the writer.
After all one cannot believe everything they read. I read it and decide whether or not it is fact, fiction or a mixture of the two. If the sources are listed I am always more inclined to accept it as fact.
As far as a piece being bias or not; isn't all literature created by a person and all people have their own way to perceive data.
I wish everyone understood the nature of social news today, but the fact is most folks do not. It is going to take another 6-18 months for folks to really undersand the nature of sites like digg, Netscape, and Reddit. For now I think it's best we make it very clear to folks that *Netscape* is not endorsing stories, but rather a platform for the community to endorse and debate stories. The OpEd tag at least bring these folks in and shows them that we're a) not endorsing it and that b) we're not saying this is a fact.
Yes, this seems basic to advanced users, but remember we are trying to build social news into a mass-market product. We need to be *extra* clear and bring people into the process--not scare them off.
I don't know who is editing your page but it sure seems like one sided, I noticed just today a poster "The18Delta" posted a video that shows a humanitarian side in Iraq was pulled, but a Bush bashing blog that was posted over a month ago is still on home page.
12:18PMDerek
I think proper identification of opinion pieces is necessary, but I don't think the title should be used to categorize stories.
I would like to see one of two things happen:
1. Users start making use of an OpEd tag.
2. Netscape adds a Political Opinion category.
Both of the above would be more useful than having a flag in the title because it allows us better access to opinion pieces.